[ A gesture regretted ]
Testimonials
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We will see in these testimonies that people in a suicidal phase are blinded by their pain. They see themselves alone, drowning in their ordeal; and no one to understand or love them.
They fail to realize one essential truth: that life is difficult for most people. They may appear strong, but they are fragile. The suicide of a loved one can easily plunge others into uncontrollable distress. Even the one who seems the strongest, the coldest, can then sink into depression.
It is essential that the person considering this fatal action understands this.
Because on the other side she will suffer greatly when she sees the damage she has (unconsciously) caused to those she loves. And she will see them because when the body dies, the liberated soul merely changes its vibrational frequency. It does not die
But just as two television channels do not interact with each other, the soul can no longer manifest in the earthly vibrationâneither to express regrets or offer comfort, nor, even less, to resume its former life. The situation is dramatic on both sides (see below: âHow I regret my action!â)..
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âI gave up suicideâ
âI was only thinking about myself. But my mother would have had to spend the rest of her life without me. My suffering would have ended, but for my loved ones it would have only just begun.
If you are thinking about suicide, remember that there are people who love you and who care about you. You may be struggling today, but tomorrow everything can change. We can never know.â Extract from a report â produced in October 2023 in collaboration with Germany and the United States â attempting to analyze this scourge, which claims as many lives as road accidents but about which little is said.
The chosen one is the one who is free to go -
but who remains,
who is free to lie down -
but who reaps,
who could take -
but who gives.
[ "Dialogues with the Angel" ]
âSadness is now part of my life.â
According to studiesBelow, extracts from a report - produced in October 2023 jointly with Germany and the United States -, attempting to analyze this evil which kills as many people as road accidents but about which we talk very little., a suicide forever changes the lives of around twenty other people.
Testimony of a young woman, Patricia, whose husband committed suicide 15 years ago, after 13 years of living together:
- I think he was really tired of existence. He had no more energy.
Yes, âtired of livingâ describes well Andreas's state in the last months, perhaps even the last years.
(...) Suddenly losing the person who mattered most in my life was extremely painful, even physically. I found myself in a state... where I could no longer think clearly.
(...) A part of me is still in mourning. Something very violent happened to me, which I cannot erase like that. This sadness is now part of my life.
Patricia found support in a discussion group, which she started running on a voluntary basis 12 years ago. In all countries, associations come to the aid of bereaved people.
A woman testifies during one of these meetings:
- I am happy to finally be able to do this work on myself, after my mother's suicide 40 years ago. I feel like I'm no longer alone. For years I felt like I was the only one going through this... such a situation.
Another woman adds:
- Pain reminds me that I am alive; I continue to live for my brother.
A man describes âendless sufferingâ:
- I see a photo, I hear a song, and the memories come flooding back. I want to smile and I start to cry.
I believe there is no recipe. It's so personal that there is no ready-made solution.
A woman notices shyly :
- We can express ourselves in this group. But unfortunately, it's very difficult to do it in another setting.
Here we can talk openly about what happened to us and what we feel. But we don't find the same listening in those around us.
"How I regret my action !"
(Testimonials collected by mediums)
â Sophie's suicide
Excerpt from Anne Givaudan's book, "breach of contract"
- Sophie's suicide -
« It all started where I thought it would finally end.
Death was neither before nor behind me. When my son came in and discovered me, I thought I was going to die a second time. I felt his immense dismay and stupor, as if it were happening to me. I then began to suffer the pain of every person I loved who discovered my lifeless body.
Feelings of helplessness, anger, abandonment, the pain of betrayal, everything that inhabited each one hit me head-on and transformed inside me into an intolerable pain.
following...
â Carole's suicide
Excerpt from Anne Givaudan's book, "breach of contract"
- Carole's suicide -
Slowly, Carole sank into a universe that no longer had any meaning.
Her parents tried in vain to get her to talk. The girl no longer wanted to speak or even eat. His parents, overwhelmed with concern, had called on the best specialists and psychotherapists. Carole no longer wanted to live.
She had decided to end her life and nothing would stop her.
It was in her mother's medicine cabinet that she found the solution: small boxes of sleeping pills lined up in front of her, neat and attractive. Her mother, who was sometimes anxious, had these pills regularly prescribed for fear of running out of them during one or other of her trips, although she only took them occasionally. The forgettable pink and white pills now slid easily down Carole's throat as she savored the moment when the nightmare that her life had become would finally come to an end...or so it did. she thought. Everything seemed simple to him and death, at this moment, did not seem dramatic to him, quite the contrary.
following...
« Mom I love you, forgive me, pray for me, help me. I shouldn't have left you that day. I was bad in my skin, in my head, in my body! »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet, 'Dialogues with the spirit world' ]
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« Tell the humans of Earth that, contrary to many ideas that circulate on your planet, the person who commits suicide does not go to hell, but ask yourself: What is hell but the suffering inflicted upon oneself by those who feel guilty?
The physical body has little to do with the hell that humans create for themselves. He is the temple through which the Entity can dissolve the conflicts and the knots which it has generated and which its soul intensely desires to resolve. The death of the body does not allow this process to stop and to believe that âkillingâ it will put an end to the problems of life is a further illusion.
(...) I finally found the companions who had guided me so far, sincerely thinking that my task was finished. I would finally be able to join the planes of Light to which I aspired.
I then read in their eyes that my mission and the repair of my story were not yet complete. During eighty years of earthly life, I was going to have to accompany and help, from the invisible, the âlivingâ with suicidal ideas.
I decided to accomplish this last step with all the love of which I felt capable. I thought I knew everything about helping others without realizing that in my pride as a rescuer (Steve was a firefighter), I forgot the main thing: (as a guardian angel, I had to) accept that the other does not hear us, without feeling helpless. Detach yourself from any idea of ââfailure and success⊠»
(A. Givaudan, 'La rupture de contrat')
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« Let us not hide from ourselves that suicide victims particularly suffer the hardships of this region ( lower astral
). They have abandoned their physical body by an artificial means, but all the feelings attached to it remain unchanged. Natural death brings with the destruction of the body, a partial extinction of these feelings. To the torments given to the suicide by the sensation of a sudden emptiness which forms within him, are added those of the unsatisfied desires and passions which have led him to commit suicide. »
[ Rudolf Steiner ]
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« (...) They looked for his mother in the whole house, and they finally found her, hanging in the attic.
Questioned by a medium, his son, who died shortly before, regrets this gesture of despair:
"Were it not for the grief caused me by his fatal resolution, I would be perfectly happy. Poor and excellent mother! She could not bear the ordeal of this momentary separation, and she took, to be reunited with her son whom she loved, the road which was to keep her away from him, alas, for a very long time. She thus delayed this reunion which would have been so prompt if she had resigned herself, humble, in the face of the ordeal which was going to purify her." »
[Message collected by Allan Kardec]
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« My death was long and I dragged a long time in the freezing water of the river. Before dying I simply saw, in a flash, my life unfold, from that moment of my fall from the bridge until my birth and my conception... I suddenly knew that life had always wanted me and that my birth was no accident. I had wanted everything, down to the smallest detail. Only my death was not part of my story.
It was like an evidence, a moment of grace that goes beyond any logical explanation, a moment when we know that our existence has a meaning.
Timmy is dead and his adoptive parents mourn him. His mother in the pain of this loss no longer sees the children who remain and who, in turn, wonder if the dead are not more loved than the living.
Timmy wants to tell them all that he's not dead but no one sees it, feels it, or hears it. »
(A. Givaudan, 'La rupture de contrat')
Contributions by Anne Givaudan on the theme of:The WAY, LOVE, LIFE, HEALTH or DEATH
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Frank's Suicide:
« "What am I here for? Whatâs the point of this life? I donât know what to do with my life in this rotten world that makes no sense!"
"Why does a God allow all this?"
"I hate this world where the powerful always have the last word."
I decided to drown myself because I saw no way out of my story, and I couldnât stand seeing misery and death all around me without being able to do anything about it.
The sea before me seemed to be my ultimate solution â a kind of dissolution of my existential anxieties. It was not an easy act; it took courage to decide to die.
But it didnât take long for me to realize that life doesnât end just because we decide it should.
A universe similar to the one I had just left revealed itself to me. I believed the fishermen had saved me, and I found my cabin and my questions just as I had left them. However, some details surprised me. The monsoon rain did not wet me, but above all, words appeared in my notebook â words I had never written:
"I, Frank, am going to die of malaria, and I am forty-five years old. But before leaving, I wanted to say this: Life is unique and sacred. It is a gift that allows us to experience the material world, in order to breathe Love into it. With this in mind, we choose roles, all very different from one another, but none ever useless."
These words may not mean anything to you, but to me they were crystal clear. I realized that I had ended my life out of despair, when I still had a few years left to understand and heal my soul.
I must also learn how to love and radiate peace around me, without pretendingâsimply by the very fact of existing. Realizing that you are not the master of the destiny of others is an important step.
Everything seems so simple when seen from this side of LifeâŠ
« Tell the people of Earth that Life is not what they often imagine. Even while physically alive, a being who is unaware of the flexibility needed to face the different situations life presents is already in Death. Death is not the disintegration of the physical; death is the hardening of the soul, the rigidity of our inner being, the will to control. »
(A. Givaudan, 'La rupture de contrat')
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Mado Maurin addresses her son, Patrick Dewaere (French actor) who committed suicide:
« To accept the death of oneâs child is to bring them into the world a second time. Our revolt is the only shadow that can still reach him in that realm where we will meet again.
What is most difficult for me is that my son chose to cut the thread of his life, and this is what will keep me on my knees before the Lord until we meet again. »
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Such a tragedy (collective suicide of three teenagers) has so many consequences that we are ashamed we did not look within ourselves for hope of a better day.
Dear parents, we know that you have forgiven us. Yet every day we still feel your pain.
Through this medium, we wish to send a message to the young people who will read this book: "Do not commit the irreversible. You who are feeling down, do not let yourself be carried away by depression or despair. Look at what life can still offer you, and while everything may seem hopeless, through belief and faith in God, you will see the light guiding your path." »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet, 'Dialogues with the spirit world' ]
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« (...) Once I was put in the hands of a guru. I had to go all the way to India to realize that they were laughing at me, and that they wanted miracles where there was nothing else to do but wait patiently. Once sure that they wouldn't get me out of there, I decided to end it.
The unexpected thing was that, in trying to remove me from life permanently, I didnât realize it was impossible. I was meant to no longer exist, yet I was, in a way, more alive than before my death. I immediately saw the sorrow and thoughts of my family caused by my regrettable act. And I was touched by the concern they had never ceased to have for me.
Dead, I was plunged into dismay at being alive, with no one to hear me scream. Who could have imagined such a thing? Who could speak of it without being laughed at and dismissed as hallucinating? »
(Testimony collected by Maddly Bamy, "To love without expecting anything in return")
Contributions by Maddly Bamy on the subject of:The WAY, LIFE, HEALTH or DEATH
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« Andy showed me that he hovered over his body.
He couldn't believe he was dead, because he felt fully alive. He told himself that he had made a terrible mistake, and he tried every way to return to his body. Unable to do so, he began to cry!
Then Andy waited there, unsure what to do. When his father found out, he felt sorry for him and for you (the mother who consults the medium). He watched him talk to you and saw you break down. He heard your thoughts that you always knew this was going to happen. He was horrified, feeling your love, that he had caused you such pain.
You see, the spirit has free will, and it can choose to incarnate too soon.
When this happens, the person will generally be inhabited throughout his life by the feeling of not being in his place.
Excerpt from the page: "Despair, depression" :
The feeling
not to be of this world
This feeling is natural... since we are not of this world. For our soul, the Earth is a place of exile, and in moments of suffering or loneliness, it longs for the world it left behind.
« Your drama is to dream of love in a climate of ice. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]
« Every person belongs simultaneously to the physical world and to a spiritual, eternal realm. Although we live in this world, our true essence is beyond it. »
( Martin Luther King )
« You are spirits temporarily living in a physical body. Your true home is the spiritual world, not the material one. »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet (medium) ]
« Throughout your life, you identify with your body. Sometimes you sense your spirit. Only at death do you realize your true self.
Your son's soul did not have the necessary maturity to go through what awaited him. Often this constitutes too heavy a burden and the soul searches for a way out. »
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')
Contributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:The WAY, LIFE or DEATH
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« As I awaken from my sleep of the dead, I heard the cries of pain, I panicked and I was forced to see that by panicking nothing was happening.
(...) This man is not wrong when he says that after an amputation, he continues to feel the limb that has been severed. I had cut off my life, and yet I still felt it. »
(Testimony collected by Maddly Bamy, "To love without expecting anything in return")
Contributions by Maddly Bamy on the subject of:The WAY, LIFE, HEALTH or DEATH
Observations on these testimonies
(extracts from a report - produced in October 2023 jointly with Germany and the United States -, attempting to analyze this evil which kills as many people as road accidents but about which we talk very little).
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The first sign of distress, warns Dr. Michael Rosmann, is worry. Worry prompts our bodies to arm themselves to deal with a threat. But if stress persists without ever diminishing, we end up completely exhausted. To the point of depression. »
Dr. Reidenberg presents the condition of patients going through a suicidal crisis:
« People in a suicidal crisis often experience unbearable psychological and sometimes physical distress. They feel extreme despair and deep sadness, convinced that their situation will never improve. They feel trapped in pain and see no other solution than to end their lives, believing it will finally stop their suffering.
People experiencing suicidal thoughts may believe that they cannot be helped, but this is entirely false. Help is possible. They may also feel like a burden to others or think that everyone ignores them. Again, these perceptions are mistaken.
(...) Some patients say that they are most often in automatic mode, as if they are anesthetized. »
« Dr. Ămilie OliĂ© warns that the stigma surrounding suicide has serious consequences, as it can prevent people from seeking timely help. To act effectively, society must allow those in need to freely express their suicidal thoughts. It is therefore essential not to fear talking about suicide risk and to engage in open conversations with one another. »
Dr. Daniel Reidenberg confirms this:
« We can help suicidal people, either through therapy or simply by offering a sympathetic ear. Sometimes, it may just involve checking in on them and being there for support.
Often, individuals at risk give indirect signs before taking action or express morbid thoughts: they may voice feelings of despair, believe they have no future, feel their existence has lost all meaning, and feel they have nothing left to offer to their family, friends, or the world. »
